adding clay to sandy soil

Then I just have caterpillars, beetles and mites to deal with. or to clay for that matter? Will that work for veggies? Zeolite and Bentonite are normally both derived from weathered volcanic minerals and both have excellent Cation Exchange capacity (ability to store Ammonium nitrogen, calcium, magnesium and potassium). Planting a cover crop over winter should help, too. The clay would slow down the water drainage and prevent future soil amendments from being lost quickly. My soil is 2 million year old seasand- naturally white, and the only thing that grows in it naturally is the Fynbos which has evolved over centuries to absorb enough water to survive on from the morning dew. In your case, you can still incorporate compost outside the rootball to the edges of the bed. Because the soil is so sandy it just washes through. I just built a raised herb garden about 4′ x 20′ and 4 inches above grade. Most gardeners who believe the myth are from the Southwestern US. Sandy soils from places near the ocean tend to contain high levels of salt. Yes, I did mulch the trees except not around the root ball area.  I appreciate your advise and I will definitely be adding some compost to the backfill along with the original soil on the new trees I plant.Thanks! Clay hangs on to the good stuff for longer, binding with organic material and increasing its persistence. Bringing in mulch isn’t great because a lawn doesn’t really want to grow in mulch. When you add larger, heavier sand particles to this scenario, it weighs down the clay particles, making them even more impenetrable by water and nutrients. I’ve never grown fruit from seed – mostly always start with canes or tiny shrubs. Within 2 years the St Augustine had spread thickly throughout and did very well until this year when my grape plants resulted in too much shade on that west side. Now just have sand and the raised beds with enough space to get around, and will divide them up into square-foot squares. Bringing in topsoil may cause some drainage problems unless you can really blend it well with the silt. Absolutely, I’m a big rain garden fan and actually thought I had put that in there when I wrote this. If you can find calcium bentonite it should work better. There isn’t much more that you can do to improve clay soil.   Marcia. These same principles are often used when making golf greens. Thanks, Dale. Check your local well driller. Huh! I wouldn’t worry about aging it. A layer of gravel is used underneath the sandy soil for the green in order to create a situation where water will stay in the upper layer of sandy soil and be available to the short roots of the grass on the green, rather than draining away. A good portion of my compost is now in the bed and I am very hopeful for how it all turns out next summer.I did a pH test and found it to be about 7.3 so I think I should add a little sulfur this fall and let it settle in over winter. The adding of hydrated lime will neutralize the acidity and disperse this toxic element. Adding organic soil amendment, such as horse manure, to name just one possible a … Truck that sand away. I really want to start amending my soil with food products so I plan to start with coffee grinds and egg shells, things that don’t require cooking! Getting the proper nutrients in there will make a lot of things work better. I rely on purchasing organic compost for my organic garden because, besides not having any extra room in my yard, I do not cook, therefore I have no way of producing a compost pile of my own and supplementing with veggies and fruit peels and all that good stuff that comes from the kitchen. There are plenty of implements to do this with a tractor when the soil is in a field, but when it’s in a pile, I don’t know. Thanks Phil,Glad I don’t have to dig them up to put the compost in the hole as I wouldn’t want to disturb them once they are planted.   Luckily I did everythig else you suggested except only did about a 3 to 4′ circle around the trees.   I want to put the compost around now, but since this is my first experience doing homemade compost, it doesn’t seem quite ‘cooked yet’.  It’s all brown but it hasn’t decomposed all the way I don’t think.  Shall I still add it or wait until it’s cooked?  Wouldn’t it attract animals?Shall I add compost to the inside of the holes when I plant more trees, blueberries, grapes in the next week or just add it to the top after it’s planted.  The soil has a lot of clay.  Hope these trees and bushes will be able to survive. I can buy it in MI for $3/yard plus trucking. However Zeolite is the best choice for gardeners because it is naturally granulated and light. If I was looking for clay I’d look for a local gravel company which sells so called washed gravel for septic systems etc. Or will the sod and paver areas need a mixture of topsoil and sand on the surface? You can also add organic matter, like compost or manure, to increase the nutrients in the soil. That’s very interesting. So forget sand. In a 4’ round bed on my front patio, there is no drainage because it is solid clay. But before I give you all the information, what do you think of the basic idea? Let’s look at what happens when you have layers in your soil. But at least 12 inches. To amend clay soil, add builder's sand and gypsum to create more air pockets and increase the soil's drainage. One thing you don’t mention is gypsum. Clay soil (to improve drainage) Sandy soil (to improve water retention) Clay soil applications. There were several unforseens, but all in all the technique was viable.thanks, Bob. I use coffee grounds as an organic mulch. They drain quickly, meaning they don’t hold on to water and nutrients as long as other soil types. I’ve added enough compost and bought compost to make the sand light brown, and have basically given up and built raised wooden beds.I plan to fill them with compost augmented with bought compost, vermiculite and the ever-present fine white sand. You could try to find a bag of rock dust at yourlocal garden centre or farm supply store and that can be helpful in slightlyimproving soil texture. Unfortunately, I can’t tell from here what you should do, other than I would suggest finding a landscaper/gardener (organically-minded) who has experience with a situation such as yours to advise you on what to do. If you decide to do this, you’ll want to do some deep research into soil replacement because it’s a huge disruption to the soil. It doesn’t always happen, but it can. The soil 3 feet down is clayish and hard fine silt/sand. That needs to be addressed by installing drainage, or even better, work with nature and put in a pond.). Till only as deep as needed, 2″ or less in most cases and never when the soil is wet. I would love to have some basil, garlic and tomatoes growing as well :0) Also, maybe some other herbs as well. The other drawback is because clay is so sticky, mixing it deeply into the soil is very difficult. And try to find a soil that has a similar texture to your exiting soil (i.e. It all starts with a tractor, with a front loader and back hoe. Depends on how it looks after broadfork, Phil, Because there is a sago palm in the middle of the bed, I could not put in a raised garden. I will be looking for cheap arable land, somewhere not too far from the sea (my first love) and I’d be quite happy with a tumbledown house on the land because I plan to build anyway, and at least that way there would be pipes in place. One solution is to add more organic matter (compost, manure, wood chips), but unfortunately if you live in a hot and humid climate the stuff you put in the soil is going to decompose quickly, since microbial activity is so fast. Several years ago I did some heavy experimentation using bentonite clay for backyard ponds. Organic matter coats the clay particles, opening up pores in the soil through which air, water, and roots can freely move. Before we go into why, we need to take a quick look at how water moves through the soil. Amending sandy soil with well rotted manure or compost (including grass clippings, humus and leaf mold) will help to improve the soil the fastest. Great question. PS- if anyone has a real snail problem, collect by hand and put in a bucket of very salty water. If straw is incorporated very well, this will not occur, but if it is just turned under, it will. It is made of clay and helps your soil retain moisture. It’s got good colour and eventually feeds the soil. Past years I have rototilled fall and spring but this year I’m trying less tilling. Some have said to lay course gravel between the clay base and top soil, but as I read your article, this is a no-no, correct? If the leaves get broken down well enough, you can sow root vegetables there. What happens if you add 6 inches of a finer soil on top of a coarser soil below? i have very clay soil, whats the additives to make the soil less clay like ??? While you’re add it – I know it’s a lot more work, but I have to suggest it – I would send a soil sample to a good organic soil lab and follow their fertilizer recommendations. PLEASE HELP!I’ve already got some chives that are growing pretty well. Now in the summer the soil is hard and compact (no help from the heavy machinery that pounded our yard during the reno). I have piled close to 12” of compost and used coffee grinds with filters on top. Good luck! You’re right about the patio pots. Hi Janet,Wow, that’s a lot of clay. The clay is fertile and plants will grow. Positively-charged nutrients stick to zeolites the same way they stick to clay. Generally, sandy soils are loose and light. My bro-in-law was working home finalization and warrantee for a construction company and turned me loose on piles of excess sand at nearby home sites. Can zeolites have an effect in a soil with low soil life? Organic matter is the usual remedy, try compost, manure and especially spent mushroom compost. We installed drainage around the perimeter of the house. I am not able to get a perfect green/brown ratio but the microbes and insects seem to love it. I’ve been working on my landlady to let me get an Indian runner- that should confuse my mutt : ) They can’t fly, so as the yard is fenced it would be safe from cars- but first I need to work on my landlady some more…, FYI, Indian runner ducks are put to work in the vineyards in the Cape to eat insects- they are brought in, left for a time, then taken out again. Then I incorporate compost over that whole area. It can improve the soil? We learned this method from AMMA SERVE project where AMMA has adopted 100 villages in 27 states of India where Farmers are being exploded by the big animals so to speak.Its such a joy to use this water now every day for the trees & Plants.We also jump in & cool our bodies as its about 100 degrees here on a average day with 85% humity.Thanks again for all the helpful info.Maybe the rain water is reducing the salt in the soil too.Natures helping waHanuman. Work it right into the top of clay soil and it will improve infiltration and will probably improve the amount of air and water available to your plants. Mg bonds water to soils (as does Na which is even worse). I have very poor sandy soil and I want to plant fruit trees. If not, you can remove them and then sow. I suppose itdepends on the kind of sand and kind of clay and many environmental factors. Clay soil particles are flat and card-like. Not bad for a sandy soil! In sandy soils, organic matter burns up a lot quicker than it does in clay soils. If you want to learn more about amending soil, here’s my post on double digging. The only answer I know is to install a drainage system of some kind (which I understand may not be possible or practical in this small bed). You can add … I know we’re discussing garden, not yard, and I agree with compost/organic especially for garden, yet: About 20 years ago, I decided to fill in a narrow strip along the side of my house where St Augustine and Bermuda were barely surviving. Was thinking, would putting the sprinkler on it for a few hours help reduce the stink? What organic materials do you recommend we replace the clay/dirt we plan to dig out and haul away in relation to the different areas I have mentioned? In more sandy soils; you'll need the higher end of the application spectrum. Like I said , it is very expensive to maintain, but if your goal is to keep the surface playable in all weather, I have found that sand works best. It will help you avoid future problems of water pooling in the wrong places. Generally soil can be classified into three groups - clay, loam and sand. The amount of lime needed to correct the soil pH will depend on your soil type (how much sand and/or clay is present in the soil). Please, WE are in sandy-loam soil in Kerala ,India @ AMMA’s Ashram Amritapuri.WE are next to the backwater that comes from the Arabian Sea.Very salty.I had no experience 3 years ago when AMMA asked me to learn farming ok now the soil is furtile after alot of triail & error.WE grow Tulasi & Moringa trees & alot of Ayurveda herbs for medicine.Its a jungle.LOVE the jungle.Thanks for all your tips. The soil created on top is the best in the garden. If you're incorporating compost or biochar - potentially less clay is required. If you amend soil by turning in (burying) coarse organic matter such as leaves or straw and they end up buried in a layer, or if you drop 6 inches of soil on top of a big layer of coarse material such as sticks or straw, you could be creating a coarse layer underneath a fine layer. The adding of hydrated lime will improve any clay soil. I pressure dug down an additional 3’ with water from my hose attached to a 4’ pipe with a 1/4″ pressure nozzle end before getting any drainage. Heavy clay soil tends to have a high level of aluminium (Al) in it which can be toxic to most plants if the soil is at all acidic. My thought is that this could solve a lot of my problems. Clay settled in the hole I dug, filled the whole bed. My garden has turned into sandy soil and nothing wants to go how can I fix it. A rain garden might be better than a pond. If you make compost in an area where clay is not part of the soil, it’s easy to put clay in compost via bentonite. Adding sand to prairie soils is not recommended. Perhaps you need to buy 1 yard of compost if yours won’t be ready in time. Mushroom compost …  Natural, efficient and easy! Understanding how water moves through clay and soil is crucial to landscaping. I have these large wine casks that were cut in half to make large flower pots.  They have always worked extremely well.  this year I decided to add some delphiniums to the mix and I looked up what additives I should use to make the soil the right mix for the delphiniums.  I was told to add sand to the soil which I did.  But the water with all of its nutrients seems to drain down so quickly that I can’t see it is doing any good.  Delphiniums are generally very fast growing plants but mine are growing at a very slow rate.  Admittedly they arrived in very poor condition and at first I was just pleased that they’d survived and were growing at all, but, now I think there must be some problem with the soil mix.  Can you advise?Scott. Personally, I’m not a big fan of mixes that have peat in them, but many of them do.  We have had very good luck with 20 lb bags of alfalfa pellets obtained from the feed store and incorporated to the soil around individual plants and broadcast over the soil so they can dissolve over time. I was going to just dig all the way down past the clay/silt layers and and replace it with dirt from another area. 2011- snails ate my veggies, I got a crop of oxalis. Isn’t it amazing that things truly can be this simple? All sounds good Doug, but don’t fertilize based on pH – that’s one of the most common mistakes made in gardening ( https://www.smilinggardener.com/organic-soil-management/soil-ph-kits/ ). Too much clay will not make hard bricks. Thin, porous, sandy soils benefit from calcium bentonite's water-holding properties, and it can be added to a general soil improvement mix for raised beds or intensively cropped vegetable beds. Putting Clay in Your Compost Pile Is Good for Sandy Soils. And yes, they have this effect in a soil with low soil life, although that should be improved, too.Like I said, I generally prefer compost, but zeolites can more permanently improve a very low CEC soil, and would be especially useful in a place where you know organic matter will not be continually recycled and increased. Hi Lovay, thanks for the great story! You’ll probably want more than justcompost for the top layer – a mixture of compost and soil. Check your soil test for the base saturation % and ratio of Ca to Mg. The answer is the same for both: organic matter. I can only guess from here. Abentonite would compact more, but is still useful added to a compost pile atas much as 10% of the volume of the pile, for the cation exchange capacity.Bentonite would be better for ponds, since you want that compaction. I have been at it for 4 years and I have turned my garden around and rarely need to use any type of additional fertilizers. My son and I will be emigrating to th e US in the next 2-3 years, so will then have SOME idea of what’s what veggie garden-wise. But doing this in a home organic garden is dangerous because you may create the opposite problem, which is a very waterlogged soil, or you may make a soil that is like concrete if you rototill the coarse and fine soils together. If I leave it over winter how much will it settle by the time it melts in the spring? How do the nutrients that are in the soil get stuck to the zeolites? But, in fact, adding sand to clay has the effect of turning soil incredibly hard and the amended area into little more than a sump, creating sodden conditions and rotting roots. Compost is at various stages because I’ve been adding to it from autumn last year to the time that I spread it on the garden. Do you know where I can buy Bentonite clay in BC? Not the clumping kind, but the regular old cat litter. Then put another layer purchase top soil to bring the ground back up to the original level. I never throw eggshells away now as I have an ongoing war with snails, which I now kill on sight.I also have to spray regularly for white aphids, fungus and red spider mite. What Else should I add to speed up the compost for next years planting season? The pore spaces in a clay soil are all small, while those in a sandy soil are all large. Lots to learn, but it’s all fun! Balancing soil nutrient ratios is the other big factor in improving clay soils next to organic matter. Soil texture test last year showed 75% clay, 15% silt and 10% sand. To keep the neighbours happy I tore it up with the broadfork and it helped a lot with the smell. Heavy clay soil is around 60% clay, not 30%. When one mixes a sandy and a clay soil together, the large pore spaces of the sandy soil are filled with the smaller clay particles. Living in Colorado we have heavy clay soils. Adding sand to clay soil, in any amount, has been proven by the University of California Agricultural Extension and the U.S. Department of Agriculture to be about the worst thing anyone can do for their garden soil. Hello, When laying your materials, aim for an equal mix of coarse sand and coarse organic material for optimum drainage and nutrients. The beds have fairly good drainage, good production depending on the crop but are prone to extreme compaction. Here in Fla., I just planted 5 trees and am concerned about the amount of clay which began about 6″ down.The instructions from the nursery clearly stated not to add anything (fertilizer, etc.) Perhaps the beds aren’t level and so the water is sliding down to one side? I will also put two rows of uncovered wire close together attached to a battery to dissuade snails and slugs. How to Improve Sandy Soils by adding Clay | Nurseries Online I live in central Florida. So if I want to grow Water Cress maybe I should make a box, put a layer of sand on the bottom, fill it with good compost and put on a low continual mist? Amendments in Florida soil disappear faster than free donuts at a Star Trek convention. How do I amend clay that deep to have drainage? Instead, send a soil sample to a good organic soil lab and then fertilizer based on which minerals your soil actually needs. Water moves downward after rain or irrigation and upward to eventually evaporate from the soil surface. This will prevent you having sandy soil sitting beneath the nutrient-enriched good soil on the top. I do like to talk about beneficials regularly around here, so be sure to stay tuned. when planting, so I didn’t do anything other than staking, watering daily the first week, now am at every other day watering for another week.My compost pile is almost “cooked” so will be available, but not sure exactly what to do at this point if anything.Trees:  Plum, nectarine and mangoes. 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