title insurance without quiet title

I’m making sure that you knew about this, what do you think?” And Sandra goes, “Well you know what, by the way Dave I kind of teach about tax liens and tax deeds I kind of know my rights and you can’t take my property and without giving me proper notice. At around the same time that I was wholesaling I got into tax deeds so that’s what the whole thing is about. Dave:  you know what? So you have to work a little bit harder with a tax deed that’s not quieted because buyers have the right to choose title and if you allow that buyer to choose the title company or their attorney, that attorney is going to go, “I don’t insure tax deeds.” So I’m not allowing my buyer to buy and you have wasted your time. Call us today to at (phone) to help you clear your next tax deed. I always listened to the tapes and I always apply what I was learning and I bought my first property. I usually don’t pay more than 70% after rehab or after rehab value and then you want to factor in your cost, your holding cost, what kind of repairs. We work with NHI. The policy will also cover, up to the face amount, any loss of title or the cost of perfecting the title. He’d need to personally appear in court if there was a hearing. Sandra: That’s all good news to me because it seems like you guys will go above and beyond for your clients. I believe its nareia.com or .org but I’ll put that in the notes. Play the video and watch how I spot the potential motivated sellers. A title search is generally conducted for purposes of obtaining title insurance, which protects the buyer and the buyer’s mortgage provider from financial loss if the seller doesn’t have clear title. CFRI has been around a long time. Please leave a review on iTunes and don’t forget to check out the show notes on www.QueenOfTaxDeeds.com. I do have a lot to offer and I really enjoy giving and being generous with my information. Well I spent $12,000 on that property, turned around and sold it for $49,000 within a few months. I’m an investor. I was approached. Sandra: I know Philipe very well, he’s like your right hand man. So they’re many things that I learned. That became our problem or the title company’s problem and not yours. They’re also a member of the National Real Estate Investor Association. There was a mortgage but for unknown reason was satisfied in 2014 before almost went to a tax deed sale. Dave:  It’s called cross collateralization, Dave: It’s called cross collateralization, Sandra:  Yes once they have the lien on one property in a county, they attach his address to everything. You just can’t sit by and think, I’ve got to learn everything I can before I get started in this business. I wanted to prove that you couldn’t do it. Knowing that title claims are at all-time lows, title insurance should be on the same endangered species list as the desert tortoise. Listen it wasn’t me that did this. You want to put… Again I am not an attorney, I’m not giving legal advice. And the reason is because they don’t trust that the foreclosure process, the notice that goes out. Let’s see what else did I want to tell you? This is our first podcast, our first episode. So I bought mortgage foreclosing titles so I could speak with Attorneys. It’s awesome. Sandra: Okay so let me make sure I am getting this right. Let’s say Dave and Sandra were the owners of the property. You should be able to certify it.” Well you’re seeing predictable behaviors, obviously Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Chase…. We’ll pick up the phone. There’s always going to be some Attorney or case file out there that scares them and again they’re an insurance company and they don’t really like risks and this is kind of a risk product. Before I got into real estate in 2004, I was in the television news business. Would you need social security? We just established a steady relationship in Florida ship in Florida with North American Title Insurance Company. Now are we still going to confirm notice? We took that same result because we will flush out the adversarial party without suing them and we will do… So that’s why the title companies don’t see any of that and why they can feel comfortable because we are not presenting those. So now you have this tax deed and that’s title. Dave: Well we are the pioneer. This was Palm Beach County. Now if you ever coming like alright I’m just going to step in and take that risk away from you, I feel you should feel more comfortable because I’m involved. Sandra:  Those are the ones we look at very carefully. One of the things that I also realize is that you’re also an investor as well as a title guy and business owner. So that way I can contact the owners and I would contact them by looking up their information on the Property Praisers website. So since these were county auctions and things happening at the county offices, I figured, well I know the Florida public record laws pretty well and being that I use to be the Crime Reporter I know the court houses pretty well too. So that’s why you want title insurance. So we skip trace Sandra and I see that if I was doing the noticing on behalf of the tax collector and I found Sandra over here, well the tax collector should have found her over there using reasonable due diligence and that’s what the court say. Again check the website, the pricing schedule. I always give the analogy that you can’t have your hand closed and expect something to come in it. So we’re going to have these podcast and hope to continue sharing great information with you and we’ll go ahead and bring on our first guest. They are in mortgage foreclosure. Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not! So because of my background in mortgage foreclosures and I know all the foreclosing Attorneys in Florida, who can I contact to determine the risk of challenge? Many investors who got in the business know about this book. Code enforcement liens were pretty high, about 8000 and they negotiated with us down to 4000. It’s all about knowledge. We contacted the foreclosing Attorney cause the foreclosing Attorney hasn’t updated his title search that picked up the tax deed that was issued before they got their own certificate title. My contract was coming up for expiration and they weren’t going to renew it so I had to find another job in another market. Call the client, clients says, “Dave yeah we had a $100,000 profit here but we’ll take 50,000 on top our 72. You didn’t pay that $10,000 and Attorney’s fee to do it. So using common sense instead of sitting them in court, pick up the phone cause if you quiet a title and sue them that Attorney’s practice is on the hook because he screwed up. Well it’s the same thing. He wanted to do a semi-agricultural use and plant various things on the land which needed to be planted at a certain time of year. So imagine you know before we even pull the noticing, before we pull anything, we get this picture back and now again the house that I described to you, the weeds are ten feet high, all the copper has been ripped out of it, windows are blown out, tree in the back yard’s falling down. Always do your own due diligence and do not solely rely on the information provided here. Obviously that’s property’s been abandoned along time. I’ve got students that come in from all over the country as well and probably even from Europe and other countries as well and they are buying all over the place from the details that we are teaching them. Ok so let’s talk about some basics on title insurance. Well you just made a bad investment. Schumacher is a trailblazer in the title industry who created a product that allows real estate investors to get title insurance less than 2 months after tax deed auction purchase. Dave, if people want to sign up and explore your services, tell us what they need to do. Title insurance is just like another insurance policy kind of like your car insurance. We knew about it but we’re letting it go.” “Ok well Sandra I could actually file a quiet title and sue you in court and that just get really messy. So if you are not in Central Florida, this podcast reach many people. That’s part of our process and part of that is we will send an inspector out to the property and snap a picture and determine the occupancy. Title insurance protects you and the lender on your home from claims against the property resulting from such issues as contractor’s liens, unpaid taxes or property disputes. Make sure nobody else can see it but have it in front of you and do not go… like I actually do ranges. Yes but are we going to really track down the former owners if they have been passed away for 20 years or the mortgage company, this was a 1999 AMP Self loan which isn’t in business anymore. A lot of times you negotiate with the code enforcement board and they look at you as their friend cause you’re coming in and you’re fixing it up, you’re cleaning it up. You can send your questions. For the first buyer, it was. I was the pro-buyer and of course the home owner was the seller and what I do is find other investors who also thought this was a good deal and I would allow them to take my position in the contract so that’s what you do with an assignment. You never make it on the sell side. And I had a project to clear a property where code enforcement normally put a lien on this gentleman’s property because he wasn’t cutting the grass or anything. We’re slap in the eye. So, I started doing what rich dad said. This is just recommendations that I have seen clients, what I have seen you do Sandra, is you want to control the transaction, you want the buyer –, “Mr. So if you have any details related to that, that helps. What’s the risk of challenge? I am super excited and glad to be here and I look forward to more podcast if you want me. Just do your due diligence and you’ll learn how to do that and you’ll hear from Dave Schumacher, the President, Tax Title Services and he’ll tell you and anyone else will that in order to have success in this business is that you have to take action alright. Tell us a little bit about what we need to do and also the fees you already went over, it’s 750 and then it’s a sliding scale from there? It’s not always practical to track down people. We’re just title people trying to clear titles, make the title companies feel comfortable, protect them, protect you, protect even the owners and mortgage holders on their due process rights and make sure that they have the chance to respond because if they don’t they may end up taking your title from you. My boot camp on the first day we do go through how to do the title search and all the in class, in house items. Sandra:  And you were pretty high up in First American. Getting Marketable Title on a Tax Deed without a Quiet Title In this Session we discuss the process of getting title insurance on Tax Deeds. Always do your own due diligence and do not solely rely on the information provided here. If I did that with a good management that I trusted and I held on to that thing for 30 years and let my tenant pay that thing off I would have 20 free and clear homes when I was ready to retire in my 60s cause… It’s really that simple. Remember back when you first got your license, your driver’s license and the first time you went to go drive? It’s not as though I had something and I bought it at a reduced price and turned around and sold it. Click here to subscribe via iTunes (coming soon), Click here to Subscribe via the RSS feed (non-iTunes). Cause they won’t pick up the phone and talk to you right. To get further information you can email me or my staff through the website and my email address is DSchumacher@taxtitleservices.com. If notice comes back undelivered you have to go Mr. Tax Collector, Mr. Attorney, Mr. Tax deed investor like in certain states, you have to do the noticing. It is 25,000 and under, 25 to 50,000 in value, 1500 to 15,000 in value, you can actually see what we charge and what the estimated costs are. You know how hard it is to talk to Wells Fargo with an authorization release or Bank of America? Dave:  So again. Dave:  Right. Same thing if you sued in court with an attorney but then faster and cheaper because we are not attorneys. Again all broken down on the website. Now everybody got notice. We have to sometimes pay a dollar per page for foreclosure file which in Florida we don’t have to do cause…, Dave: It’s all on line. We’re just going to look at the noticing and if we see that noticing was sent to Sandra and that notice came back undelivered well Sandra maybe an adversarial party roaming around not knowing about the tax sale. Sandra:  Oh of course. Looking for a way to obtain title insurance without a quiet title action/ re-foreclosure. A clean or clear title is important because the title is what gives you ownership of a property. Sandra: All right well thank you so much for taking the time to talking to us and I look forward to many other deals that were going to do and really appreciate your service Dave. What are you going to do? Is it the ego or what? And Mississippi in South Carolina, is called a strict compliance state so you have to really be careful because when one thing is wrong, the whole thing is wrong. I was a Vice President there’s and develop this national foreclosure group for them. He’s traveled down to the field trips and done events and come down and speak and talk to our investors, very, very knowledgeable. Feel free to email me any of your questions and my staff or I would be glad to help you in any way we can whether it’s an investment question or whether it’s a title question or a tax deed question or even to find out when standard events are. So tell me a little bit about you and what it is you offer and how you got started. Now isn’t that the same results I you quiet the title in court and Wells Fargo contest it and 9 months later you settle? No they have charged up. Sandra is part of your team, I am part of your team. Even after I explained the exact same things to him, his preference was to wait for a title insurance company to issue a policy than to accept a more powerful judicial verdict. They are no longer alive and the heirs are scattered and they don’t… they weren’t notified. One of the thing is, you cannot sit on the fence. So you get your tax deed and while you’re waiting for our tax deed you’re actually could be using your receipt of sale because sometimes it take 30 days to get your deed or. By the time I left that company in 99, we were doing 50,000 mortgage foreclosures a month, 26 million dollars in business and I had foreign employees in my unit. How to File a Quiet Title. You should have told Wells Fargo,” hey we got notice. Sandra:  So that’s another consideration. She’s like, “No Dave, my title is ready to go. My superiors were saying that we don’t insure tax deeds you know and so I remember I went to this tax seminar in Orange County California where I live and I remember sitting there and I remember the speaker goes, “when you get a taxing certificate and then you get a tax deed now you own the property, you’re going to have a title problem and if anybody out there can figure out how to get insurance on a tax deed he’d be a millionaire” and I remember the light bulb went off in my head and I started working at First American to work with my superiors why don’t we insure this? Why Quiet Title is Better Than Title Insurance, Request Invitation to Weekly Members Call, 40 Acres is Better than 2 Acres most of the time – Not Always. So if Westcor insured you through our process you can always come back to Westcor for future insurance and then you want to… So because the state of Florida or South Carolina is called a buyer attorney state. In a standard Florida Real Estate transaction, the buyer will insist upon title insurance in order to insure the title to the property for the amount of the purchase price. And it’s like are you kidding me? 80% of these were going to go through this underwriting process, this vetting process, this slap in the bee hive process and we’re going to get to the point where we do feel comfortable with that and you have possession of the property and no we’re going to say Sandra we’re ready to certify, here’s our invoice and the title company is ready to insure you. The foreclosing Attorney. Alright and joining me right now is Dave Schumacher with Tax Title Services and I have to say one thing that I am happy about that I came across this company pretty early on in my tax deeds investing. The cost in that running. Contact me through there. We’re good guys. Why is the owner still living in the property? Don’t go over your number. They said they contracted with us and we said that we can and we are ready to certify one time, they never pay for our service, came back a year later and we said, “Okay well we need to update everything. There’s only one tax certificate sale a year in June but there’s always a tax deed auction going on somewhere in Florida. Looking forward to the next time and seeing you again. We’ve had like three or four of those but we really only had one or two paid claims. How? The developer could likely fix all of his title problems at once with a quiet title action. You will then fax us the purchase agreement which then we will set up at closing for you with our title agent, our vendors and then they are insuring you and your buyer. You’re all nervous. Dave: Correct. Sandra: This is The Queen of Tax Deeds podcast for real estate investing, session number one. So you got to deal with that…. You’re an investor too. Let’s go back to some basics. If your transaction does not require title insurance you can probably opt out. by Robert T. Kiyosaki. Could you live off 20 grand a month? Do they own it anymore? Yes, because the internet enables the general public to now do title searches themselves with a bit of education and a subscription to a data aggregation service. They do happen to play the game long enough. In Florida sometimes. It still doesn’t because there’s always some…. It’s not Florida. Imagine buying your dream home, closing the deal and then realizing the previous owner hadn’t paid property taxes for several years. I’ve been buying again. The risk of challenge is low. So using predictable behavior what’s the risk of challenge Sandra? This property would be bought at a tax sale. You can see that the foreclosing Attorney got notice, Wells Fargo got notice. I look forward to hearing from you. You are encouraged to seek counsel from a knowledgeable professional on this or any other investment with which you are unfamiliar as to legal, financial and tax implication prior to implementing the techniques and processes discussed in this program. If you like the content provided in this session please do me the favor and leaving a favorable rating on iTunes. We had one other claim, like five or six years ago where Miami Dade County…. They’d rather have money than this property sitting there that they’re sinking the money in and not getting anything out of it. They got notice but you don’t have possession. Sandra:  That’s nice. Ok I see that Sandra wasn’t notified I see a letter there why don’t we pick up the phone and talk to Sandra? Morbidly? The answer or information provided above is for general purposes only and should not be construed as formal legal advice, a legal opinion or the creation of a lawyer or attorney-client relationship. The most common claims filed against a title are back taxes, liens, and conflicting wills. I wanted to prove that you couldn’t. They just go and they go past their number sometimes. The website is a very extensive website. What’s 20 houses times a $1000? That’s how I got into it. A quiet title is a term that refers to ensuring that there are no claims against the title of a property. Drove by the property, nobody is there.” Or, “Actually I did speak to the occupants, then you about the tax sale. So our service run about 1600 to 2300 with all your cost title insurances on top of that. Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed. Florida, Sanders state is a judicial foreclosure state. I told both buyers that it makes sense for me to sell the property to the first person who wants to give me money for it. To obtain a mortgage loan, title insurance is necessary. A seller without clear title to the property cannot effectively transfer ownership of that property. That property had a mortgage on there which got wiped away and we’ll discuss that with Dave Schumacher and how that happens and it also had code enforcement liens on there which don’t go away. This process is extremely important when title insurance is required for financing and when the specific provisions contained in MCL 211.79a regarding abandoned property purchased at a … You want title insurance to protect you against somebody trying to attach your title or take that property from you or say the former owner or Mortgage Company said, “we were wiped out by tax but we didn’t get proper notice so we’re now going to file an action overturn the tax sale and take your tax deed or title from you. Ok so, at 50% of value, this is my number and you can’t go over that number. He wants the court to give him the judgment. And you’re like, ok. Well again those are called guardians. All things being equal, it came down to whether or not title insurance was really worth it. 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